Monday, December 8, 2008

Joseph Newman-Misc postings of interest

In a message dated 12/8/2008 4:21:15 A.M. Central Standard Time, manahoac_saponi@yahoo.com writes:
I came across something in the Saponi records about one of the chief's dying.....well what he died of is what struck me as very interesting.Ok well we all know about Brent Kennedy.Well this document talked about "Pleursy"....which is something I have also along with Tachycardia (doctors do not know what causes my Pleursy)....but any way.....I'll copy and past what the document says....and then I'll show you something about Pleursy."The daughter of the Tetero (that is Tutelo) king went away with the Sapponies, but being the last of her nation, and fearing she should not be treated according to her rank, poisoned herself, like an old Roman, with the root of the trumpet plant. Her father died two years before, who was the most intrepid Indian we have been acquainted with. He had made himself terrible to all other Indians by his exploits, and had escaped so many dangers that he was esteemed invulnerable. But at last he died of a pleurisy, the last man of his race and nation, leaving only that unhappy daughter behind him, who would not long survive him."Here is most of the page that came from and the source info:Page 89The Westover Manuscripts: Containing the History of the Dividing Line Betwixt Virginia and North Carolina; A Journey to the Land of Eden, A. D. 1733; and A Progress to the Mines. Written from 1728 to 1736, and Now First Published: Byrd, William, 1674-1744And in earnest they would have served well enough for that purpose, if the white people in the neighbourhood had not debauched their morals, and ruined their health with rum, which was the cause of many disorders, and ended at last in a barbarous murder committed by one of these Indians when he was drunk, for which the poor wretch was executed when he was sober. It was matter of great concern to them, however, that one of their grandees should be put to so ignominious a death. All Indians have as great an aversion to hanging as the Muscovites, though perhaps not for the same cleanly reason: these last believing that the soul of one that dies in this manner, being forced to sally out of the body at the postern, must needs be defiled. The Sapponies took this execution so much to heart, that they soon after quitted their settlement and removed in a body to the Catawbas. The daughter of the Tetero king went away with the Sapponies, but being the last of her nation, and fearing she should not be treated according to her rank, poisoned herself, like an old Roman, with the root of the trumpet plant. Her father died two years before, who was the most intrepid Indian we have been acquainted with. He had made himself terrible to all other Indians by his exploits, and had escaped so many dangers that he was esteemed invulnerable. But at last he died of a pleurisy, the last man of his race and nation, leaving only that unhappy daughter behind him, who would not long survive him.The most uncommon circumstance in this Indian visit was, that they all came on horse-back, which was certainly intended for a piece of state, because the distance was but three miles, and it is likely they had walked on foot twice as far to catch their horses. The men rode more awkwardly than any Dutch sailor, and the ladies bestrode their palfreys a la mode de France, but were so bashful about it, that there was no persuading them to mount till they were quite out of our sight. The French women used to ride a-straddle, not so much to make them sit firmer in the saddle, as from the hopes the same thing might peradventure befall them that once happened to the nun of Orleans, who, escaping out of a nunnery, took post en cavalier, and in ten miles' hard riding had the good fortune to have all the tokens of a man break out upon her. This piece of history ought to be the more credible, because it leans upon much the same degree of proof as the tale of bishop Burnet's two Italian nuns, who, according to his lordship's account, underwent the same happy metamorphosis, probablyby some other violent exercise.Ok now let's get into the Brent kennedy thing. Below is from Medicalnet.comWhat is sarcoidosis?Sarcoidosis is a disease that results from a specific type of inflammation of tissues of the body. It can appear in almost any body organ, but it starts most often in the lungs or lymph nodes.(Note:....most often in the Lungs...keep that in mind).Ok on the the next thing:Familial Mediterranean fever aka FMT:From Wikipedia (not a fully reliabale sources..but anyway).Familial Mediterranean Fever (FMF) is a hereditary inflammatory disorder that affects groups of people originating from around the Mediterranean Sea (hence its name). It is prominently present in the Armenian people, Sephardi Jews (and, to a much lesser extent, Ashkenazi Jews), people from Turkey, and the Arab countries.Signs and symptoms: (Take note of number 3)There are seven types of attacks. 90% of all patients have their first attacks before they are 20 years old. All develop over 2-4 hours and last anytime between 6 hours and 4 days. Most attacks involve fever:[1]1.Abdominal attacks, featuring abdominal pain affecting the whole abdomen with all signs of acute abdomen (e.g. appendicitis). They occur in 95% of all patients and may lead to unnecessary laparotomy. Incomplete attacks, with local tenderness and normal blood tests, have been reported. 2.Joint attacks, occurring in large joints, mainly of the legs. Usually, only one joint is affected. 75% of all FMF patientsexperience Joint attacks. 3.Chest attacks with pleuritis (inflammation of the pleural lining) and pericarditis (inflammation of the pericardium). Pleuritis occurs in 40%, but pericarditis is rare. 4.Scrotal attacks due to inflammation of the tunica vaginalis. This occurs in up to 5% and may be mistaken for acute scrotum (i.e. testicular torsion) 5.Myalgia (rare in isolation) 6.Erysipeloid (a skin reaction on the legs, rare in isolation) 7.Fever without any symptoms (25%) So now I'll quote from WebMD (Now my doctor told me I can't die from Pleursy...my doctor always just gives me some kind of inflamatory medicine....but apprently the Tutelo Chief died from it) but anyway on with WebMD.Understanding Pleurisy - the BasicsWhat Is Pleurisy?Pleurisy, also called pleuritis, is an inflammation of the pleura, which is the moist, double-layered membrane that surrounds the lungs and lines the rib cage. The condition can make breathing extremely painful. Sometimes it is associated with another condition called pleural effusion, where excess fluid fills the area between the membrane's layers.The double-layered pleura protects and lubricates the surface of the lungs as they inflate and deflate within the rib cage. Normally, a thin, fluid-filled gap -- the pleural space -- allows the two layers of the pleural membrane to slide gently past each other. But when these layers become inflamed, with every breath, sneeze, or cough their roughened surfaces rub painfully together like two pieces of sandpaper.In some cases of pleurisy, excess fluid seeps into the pleural space, resulting in pleural effusion. This fluid buildup usually has a lubricating effect, relieving the pain associated with pleurisy as it reduces friction between the membrane's layers. But at the same time, the added fluid puts pressure on the lungs, reducing their ability to move freely. A large amount of fluid may cause shortness of breath. In some cases of pleural effusion, this excess liquid can become infected.What Causes It?Viral infection is probably the most common cause of pleurisy. Other causes include the following:Lung infections, such as pneumonia and tuberculosis Other diseases such as systemic lupus erythematosus (lupus), rheumatoid arthritis, cancer, liver and pulmonary embolism Chest injuries Drug reactions Pleurisy and pleural effusion are generally only as serious as the underlying disease causing it. If you have either of these conditions, you may already be undergoing treatment for the underlying disease; if not, seek medical attention immediately.A pleural effusion can occur without pleurisy Kidney disease, heart failure, and liver disease can cause pleural effusion without inflammation or pain.So....it's a interesting thing....I wish there was more about what caused the Tutelo Chief's Pleursy......If it was TB then why did William Bird not say TB....if it was Pneumonia why did he not say that? Why did he just say "A Plesury"? If it was TB then I'm sure it would have spread to the rest of the tribe which the Saponi/tutelo did not suffer a TB Epidemic....what deaths they had usually came from wars...they was almost always fighting. He did not say the Chief died of Disease......he did not say if the Chief died in winter, spring, Summer, etc either which makes it hard to tell if the Chief may have goten Pneumonia. but anyway I figured I woudl share this information.The location this Chief was at was Brunswick, Virginia at the Saponi Reservation.

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